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also republican congressman raul labrador, former white house chief of staff for bill clinton john podesta, and our friend gop strategist mike murphy. welcome to everybody. yes, i want to get to as much as we can, including some of the republican fallout a little bit later. >>> andrea, bottom line, this furious debate and new facts we've gotten here on benghazi and susan rice this morning. >> mike rogers, the republican chair, threw a hand grenade into the middle of this table when he suggested that the president of the united states might have had prior knowledge before the election of what was going on with david petraeus, that eric holder was aware of it, the attorney general, and that it's not credible that eric holder would not have told the president. this will raise a lot of questions. holder will be called to attention on the hill. the other thing is the disconnect between what the senators believe, which was that there was not an intelligence failure but there was certainly a failure then to follow up. did the state department, why did the state department not increase security, n
also republican congressman raul labrador, former white house chief of staff for bill clinton john podesta, and our friend gop strategist mike murphy. welcome to everybody. yes, i want to get to as much as we can, including some of the republican fallout a little bit later. >>> andrea, bottom line, this furious debate and new facts we've gotten here on benghazi and susan rice this morning. >> mike rogers, the republican chair, threw a hand grenade into the middle of this table...
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one way to go back to where it was under bill clinton. that's what the president's saying he won't budge on. another way though is to close loopholes or cap deductions. the think tank third way said you could get about $1.3 million capping deductions. that affects the wealthy. there's many ways to get revenue, why is he only saying i'm going to go for this way? >> let's remember that he was very conciliatory in his speech on election night. and he even reiterated today, erin, that if republicans have other ideas on how to get to where we need to go, if other democrats have other ideas, which would mean to deal with this in a balanced way that does not hurt middle class families, workers, seniors, the most vulnerable, i think he's willing to listen to that. so i think that is where the compromise can lie, if republicans really understand they're the ones that are going to need to give more. >> do you agree with that? the president did win electoral popular vote. the margin was only 2%, but he did win it. >> sure. well, elections have conse
one way to go back to where it was under bill clinton. that's what the president's saying he won't budge on. another way though is to close loopholes or cap deductions. the think tank third way said you could get about $1.3 million capping deductions. that affects the wealthy. there's many ways to get revenue, why is he only saying i'm going to go for this way? >> let's remember that he was very conciliatory in his speech on election night. and he even reiterated today, erin, that if...
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he called for bill clinton to go in but then was critical of hillary clinton going in. you know, i think a lot of people will say his politics are more personal than pragmatic. >> yet she is the top diplomat in the country. >> right. >> i want to talk because i can't resist 2016. i can't help myself. it's an addiction. >> why? >> you sound like my wife. chris christie hugely focused in the run up to the election after hurricane sandy, saying nice things about president obama. in "the new york times" today, the governor of iowa is quoted as saying the following. i will put it up and read here. there are some people that think maybe he could have handled it, been a little less gushing. but that's his personality. he has got that new jersey edge to him. you know, for good or bad. i don't think most people describe chris christie as gushing but that's fine, one way or the other. >> he emotes. >> are you surprised at the level of blow back for folks who haven't read "the new york times" story, they should. whether christie gave obama a hand up in the election. are you surpri
he called for bill clinton to go in but then was critical of hillary clinton going in. you know, i think a lot of people will say his politics are more personal than pragmatic. >> yet she is the top diplomat in the country. >> right. >> i want to talk because i can't resist 2016. i can't help myself. it's an addiction. >> why? >> you sound like my wife. chris christie hugely focused in the run up to the election after hurricane sandy, saying nice things about...
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senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas militant. according to israel, this is a house belonging to a senior official of hamas, but at the same time there were 12 people inside of that house, including four women and four children. all of them killed. so many people are condemning that attack. meanwhile, it is nighttime here and the people of gaza are bracing themselves for what could be another night of deadly attacks despite the diplomatic activity in cairo. negotiations are under way as well as palestinian factions as to what to do next, but those here in gaza say they are preparing for a ground invasion, and meaning if israel launches a wa
senator john mccain suggesting to bring in bill clinton as a peace negotiator and calling him an honest broker to go in to handle it. and now let's go to aymon goldien. >> well, palestinian forces have left today alone 25 people killed. these targets have varied in range and scope. one incident took place on sunday that is drawing strong condemnation from people here and several around the world saying that it may have amounted to a massacre at the house of one leading member of a hamas...
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. >> okay, well look at what president clinton did 15 years ago. he signed the sunshine bill, and that stopped all the assault rifles in the united states for ten years. these were gone for ten years unless i want to sell walmart guns. >> cenk: thank god. you want to sell these things. you're in favor of assault rifles being legal. there is no legitimate use for this. if you're a hunter, do you use this stuff? what the hell do you use this for? again explain it to me because i don't own guns. what in the world would you shoot with these things. investment? go get some stocks. >> yeah, well, if these guns are outlawed the price doubles and we can't get any more. but the people who buy them will be grandfathered. they'll be able to keep them and sell them to other people. but the dealers won't be able to get them any more. people don't go hunting with these, but they're fun. i have five rifle ranges out here. if it's daytime i would go out and show you how much fun it is to shoot these. it's a lot of fun. >> cenk: i've done it. i've gone to a gun ran
. >> okay, well look at what president clinton did 15 years ago. he signed the sunshine bill, and that stopped all the assault rifles in the united states for ten years. these were gone for ten years unless i want to sell walmart guns. >> cenk: thank god. you want to sell these things. you're in favor of assault rifles being legal. there is no legitimate use for this. if you're a hunter, do you use this stuff? what the hell do you use this for? again explain it to me because i don't...
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susan rice is appointing bill clinton as a marriage counselor. she has done nothing. we're in the passenger seat of car driven by 16-year-old that got his driver's lie sense and is texting. that's what i feel like. it call them the keystone cop ks but that would be insulting to them. the media is following the juicy pieces of gossip. we are forgetting about the important issue, benghazi. say it again to piss you off, bob. we spent so much time on the valerie plaem affair. they made in a movie and put it on cover of "vanity fair" and it was a stupid scandal. four people are dead in benghazi and we are talking about pages of e-mails. >> bob: let me ask you a question. because you don't like what she did on benghazi going around to the sunday talk show, name me one thing you know about her that disqualifies her for secretary of state? >> greg: that is enough for me. >> dana: she has had a less than shining career as u.n. ambassador. >> bob: how so. >> dana: she has big shoes to fill. but presidents get to choose who they want and if she is confirmed by the senate i wish
susan rice is appointing bill clinton as a marriage counselor. she has done nothing. we're in the passenger seat of car driven by 16-year-old that got his driver's lie sense and is texting. that's what i feel like. it call them the keystone cop ks but that would be insulting to them. the media is following the juicy pieces of gossip. we are forgetting about the important issue, benghazi. say it again to piss you off, bob. we spent so much time on the valerie plaem affair. they made in a movie...
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i thought ronald reagan had a fairly successful second term and bill clinton's was marred by his own personal issues. second trerms difficult. w. had a dficult time. one of the things i think they underestimate at the white house and the treasury is the idea of doing tax reform. when you both were probably in preschool, i was covering the '85, '86, tax reform act, and to call it heavy lifting is an understatement. it took a savvy, smart treasury secretary, jim baker, working with capitol hill and a supportive president, and democrats and republicans. i don't see any of those ingredients today to do tax reform in 2013, 2014. >> especially ifhe esident going to have a new treasury secretary. itim geithner, this has sort of been his-- tim geithner wanted to be behind tax reform, wanted to be the force behind corporate tax reform. that might speak to tim geithner staying on a little long fer they think they can get something done in the first six months. >> why is anything different now? why is anything different in the second term? >> good point. >> i'll turn the hosting to you. >> mart
i thought ronald reagan had a fairly successful second term and bill clinton's was marred by his own personal issues. second trerms difficult. w. had a dficult time. one of the things i think they underestimate at the white house and the treasury is the idea of doing tax reform. when you both were probably in preschool, i was covering the '85, '86, tax reform act, and to call it heavy lifting is an understatement. it took a savvy, smart treasury secretary, jim baker, working with capitol hill...
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. >> they do, but there is hypocrisy circumstance look at bill clinton. he is one of the most revered and popular ex-presidents in history and you he was a pretty naughty boy as president, you know? i don't think the american public are quite as puritanical to people they linings as to people maybe they don't like so much. >> like whom? >> eliot spitzer would come to mind. >> that wasn't exactly an affair. that was a business arrangement, right? a little different, i think. but you are right. i think the public cuts a lot of soft core for those they love. >> "capturing camelot," a guy called stanley, an official photographer for the kennedys. >> he really wasn't, piers, he was a real old-time photojournalist who had immense access to the kennedys. >> but wasn't official? >> no. no. >> they just let him in. >> they let him in and they let him in for the reasons we were just talking about. they -- he had a very symbiotic relationship with the kennedys. he made them look good and they gave him access. >> they understood the power of this kind of image. i mea
. >> they do, but there is hypocrisy circumstance look at bill clinton. he is one of the most revered and popular ex-presidents in history and you he was a pretty naughty boy as president, you know? i don't think the american public are quite as puritanical to people they linings as to people maybe they don't like so much. >> like whom? >> eliot spitzer would come to mind. >> that wasn't exactly an affair. that was a business arrangement, right? a little different, i...
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>> well, i'm never wrong, bill. >> bill: there is the answer. you agree with him, right? >> the easter bunny running across the studio. i agree 100%. initially he hid behind susan rice, then hillary clinton's skirts or pant suits or whatever. this was a totally manufactured chill russ umbrage. it's like why are you picking on my girl? it's insult to go women also what he's doing and it was a way to change the subject and to take the moral high ground. >> bill: you both think is a complete phony manufacture. some of you are going to get mad at me because today a c.i.a. guy came out who testified in front of a house deal and said we told ambassador rice, we told her, c.i.a. told her that it was a spontaneous deal. so it's on us. why that took two months plus for them to say, i don't know. petraeus testifies tomorrow. maybe we'll find out. but maybe, maybe it isn't rice's fault. >> it goes back to the time. it was ohm one question, who pushed the video and they've been work backwards, reverse engineering their story. so finally they got to the c.i.a. >> bill: so you don't be
>> well, i'm never wrong, bill. >> bill: there is the answer. you agree with him, right? >> the easter bunny running across the studio. i agree 100%. initially he hid behind susan rice, then hillary clinton's skirts or pant suits or whatever. this was a totally manufactured chill russ umbrage. it's like why are you picking on my girl? it's insult to go women also what he's doing and it was a way to change the subject and to take the moral high ground. >> bill: you both...
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as we saw with bill clinton and george w. bush. in this case from the white house timing is better for them to do it this week because of the fiscal cliff coming together now and because of congress coming back in session this week. maybe he can grab congress' attention and talk about the fiscal cliff. but let's face it. iran, syria, what's happening on the ground there, benghazi, the terrorist attacks. this will be the first conference since then. then you add in general david petreaus and his scandal. the fact that he was set to testify on the benghazi situation right before he stepped down. he is likely to testify on capitol hill later this week. paula broadwell, her role in this -- she gave a speech at the university of denver where she suggested that maybe the real target of this terror attack was the fact that the cia was allegedly holding libyan militants near the consulate. that is being repeatedly denied by the cia. so many questions to probe. when you have a president who has not had a full-scale news conference since mar
as we saw with bill clinton and george w. bush. in this case from the white house timing is better for them to do it this week because of the fiscal cliff coming together now and because of congress coming back in session this week. maybe he can grab congress' attention and talk about the fiscal cliff. but let's face it. iran, syria, what's happening on the ground there, benghazi, the terrorist attacks. this will be the first conference since then. then you add in general david petreaus and his...
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. >> you said that about bill clinton in 1993. not a single republican voted for his tax increase, and we had 23 million new jobs. >> it doesn't keep up with population growth. >> i'll tell you this. >> we are not growing our way out of this, and obama doesn't want to grow. >> regarding the clinton tax hike of '93, first of all, the economy didn't do so great after that tax hike. it was later when he cut the capital gains tax. >> that's not true, larry. look at the numbers, larry. that's not true. >> we cut spending, keith. >> but the fact is, george papa bush gave clinton a really strong 4% economy. right now you've got a whole different situation. >> wait a minute. so you can talk about the senior bush but you can't talk about the younger bush and what he gave president obama? is this not hypocrisy? >> papa bush gave him a better economy. i've got to get out of here. >> it's after the election, you lost, larry. get over it. >>> do you think someone earning $250,000 a year is rich? please tweet us @thekudlowreport. we'll read the
. >> you said that about bill clinton in 1993. not a single republican voted for his tax increase, and we had 23 million new jobs. >> it doesn't keep up with population growth. >> i'll tell you this. >> we are not growing our way out of this, and obama doesn't want to grow. >> regarding the clinton tax hike of '93, first of all, the economy didn't do so great after that tax hike. it was later when he cut the capital gains tax. >> that's not true, larry. look...
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it never -- exactly. >> bill: it's all under investigation. but here is -- i'm saying this with all due respect how big a fraud this is. if i'm in the washington press corps you know this press conference is a lot different than that because i basically say, mr. president, i'm a simple man, you know, i always start it with that to be humble. when did you know about -- president, when did you know about cia cia director petraeus' situation. what day? what hour did you know? if he dose it's under investigation i can't tell you. i go oh phooey phooey. that doesn't impede on any investigation. it's a question between bill and barack? when did you know? what day? could you tell us that? and then what is he going to do then? oh, ---then he looks foolish if he doesn't say. he says well, i learned on thursday after the election. two days later. i say oh, that's interesting, thursday after the election. did any of your crew know before then? and if so, why didn't they tell you? oh, these -- this is how in journalism school when i went there in boston u
it never -- exactly. >> bill: it's all under investigation. but here is -- i'm saying this with all due respect how big a fraud this is. if i'm in the washington press corps you know this press conference is a lot different than that because i basically say, mr. president, i'm a simple man, you know, i always start it with that to be humble. when did you know about -- president, when did you know about cia cia director petraeus' situation. what day? what hour did you know? if he dose it's...
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i mean, bill clinton went through -- >> yeah, yeah. >> this guy get a single side note. >> just a pesky asterisk. but, you know, politicians and presidents for years in washington have been using david petraeus as cover. if you can get underneath -- >> republicans said that name over and over. >> wrap yourself in the petraeus flag and you got immunity from almost anything. >> what is president obama worried about petraeus? >> i think it's -- i think he's being gracious now. i think maybe buyer's remorse, some people once you get into the details of this whacky situation, they're thinking maybe he should have stuck with him, maybe everything moved too fast, maybe he's -- he did what he did but maybe he's the victim -- >> before you jump to that, and i am -- the older i get the more leaning i get towards these -- >> meaning -- >> if it got out he had this affair with the reporter and also got out that the president knowing about it had kept him in office, what would that have been like? >> that would have been bad. the only way you can do this is if you make a clean breast of it, say you'
i mean, bill clinton went through -- >> yeah, yeah. >> this guy get a single side note. >> just a pesky asterisk. but, you know, politicians and presidents for years in washington have been using david petraeus as cover. if you can get underneath -- >> republicans said that name over and over. >> wrap yourself in the petraeus flag and you got immunity from almost anything. >> what is president obama worried about petraeus? >> i think it's -- i think...
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two winning campaign, bill clinton, 62%. and then '92, 53%. unmarried white women, i had a pollster tell me this was the most fluid part of the electorate. unmarried white women, it isn't just single women under the age of 40. don't just think there, you're also talking widows. so there's a good chuck of these folks. the president won them by six points. and they were 14% of the electorate. yes, he won them by more, 19, but they were 13% of the electorate. but this is perhaps the most important swing voting group that you had to look at. i can tell you in senate race after senate race, the number that would fluctuate more than independents was unmarried white women. is it a voting group we should continue to follow, continue to track. i encourage more pollsters. not all pollsters do single and married enough in their factuals to get the you cross-tabs. this marriage gap is an important track to be tracking but in particular, married and gender thrown in to one. autopsy 2012, we will continue to do it throughout the rest of the year. >>> invest
two winning campaign, bill clinton, 62%. and then '92, 53%. unmarried white women, i had a pollster tell me this was the most fluid part of the electorate. unmarried white women, it isn't just single women under the age of 40. don't just think there, you're also talking widows. so there's a good chuck of these folks. the president won them by six points. and they were 14% of the electorate. yes, he won them by more, 19, but they were 13% of the electorate. but this is perhaps the most important...
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, he didn't say when taxes were raised in the clinton administration. the economy took off. so i think leaders -- >> it's possible. it's definitely possible. >> talk about the spirit of compromise that he had mentioned. what does the president get here out of this in if he gets business leaders on board to get republicans to deal? if he gets them on board, will it force republicans to deal? >> we've seen repeatedly the republicans are seen on their own planetary orbit. if you get wealthy americans to say to them that you have to cut a deal, i think what is really important here is you need to show fiscal responsibility. there's 1 trillion to $2 trillion of gas sitting on the sidelines. and they want to be invested in this country, in growing businesses, in building new equipment. >> does this show us therefore we might be seeing what you just described? release some of the 1.2 trillion dlarz? >> if we can show fiscal responsibility, yes. we still get to keep american businesseses competitive. can we have that together? >> i bet we can. i bet the stock m
, he didn't say when taxes were raised in the clinton administration. the economy took off. so i think leaders -- >> it's possible. it's definitely possible. >> talk about the spirit of compromise that he had mentioned. what does the president get here out of this in if he gets business leaders on board to get republicans to deal? if he gets them on board, will it force republicans to deal? >> we've seen repeatedly the republicans are seen on their own planetary orbit. if you...
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president in her corner, no matter what, bill clinton. but she has served president obama very well as has joe biden. wouldn't that president the president in a very tight spot? >> it would. >> well, like jonathan said i think some conversations will have to be had behind the scenes before they decide who will go forward. but i think the president will maybe say something -- you know, he'll try to stay out of it, but i think he'll make his choice known behind the scenes. >> so who on the right would be the biggest opponent? would it be a christie or rubio? >> those are certainly two candidates that could come forward in 10 t 2016. marco rubio saying his trip has nothing to do with 2016. nobody other than marco rubio believing that. you have to think about bobby jindal, the governor of louisiana, susanna martinez has gained a lot of interest among republicans lately. particularly after they were hammered with the latino vote in the last election. so there are a lot of republicans who could end up running. there will be some effort in the r
president in her corner, no matter what, bill clinton. but she has served president obama very well as has joe biden. wouldn't that president the president in a very tight spot? >> it would. >> well, like jonathan said i think some conversations will have to be had behind the scenes before they decide who will go forward. but i think the president will maybe say something -- you know, he'll try to stay out of it, but i think he'll make his choice known behind the scenes. >> so...
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we have seen that with bill and hillary clinton. and then there are times it's irreparable. >> whether you plan to serve for just a few years or -- >> reporter: still, she is determined, staying at her job and at least for now according to friends continuing to work on her marriage. for "today," kristen welker, are nbc news, washington. >>> up next on "today," the rush for the register. why some people plan to skip that second helping on thanksgiving to indulge in holiday shopping. ♪ we were skipping stones and letting go ♪ [ female announcer ] nature valley granola bars, rich dark chocolate, toasted oats. perfect combinations of nature's delicious ingredients, from nature valley. ♪ nature valley granola bars, nature at its most delicious. ♪ be the first to get great savings at the petsmart beat the rush sale. save 30% on all petholiday™ by great choice® products and save $6 on purina one® and beneful® dog food. friday through sunday only, at petsmart®. fire bad! just have to fire roast these tomatoes. this is going to
we have seen that with bill and hillary clinton. and then there are times it's irreparable. >> whether you plan to serve for just a few years or -- >> reporter: still, she is determined, staying at her job and at least for now according to friends continuing to work on her marriage. for "today," kristen welker, are nbc news, washington. >>> up next on "today," the rush for the register. why some people plan to skip that second helping on thanksgiving to...